[updated:LAST EDITED ON Aug-10-03 AT 03:59 AM (GMT)]Episode 2 was promising. Dan is developing a personality. He also smiles a lot and I like that.:7 The chemistry between Dan and Zoey is emerging. So much more genuine than Tom and whatshername.
I would be happier if they were equal partners in the series, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen when Joely Fisher presents the previews for HER new series.
The story was good, the wardrobe is awful. I can see this going back to the KFTLC days when we had weekly polls on the best and worst of Peter's outfits. But we've all matured since then and that would be shallow of us.}>
It's so good to see Chris in a weekly series and it would appear that he might get some juicy story lines in the weeks ahead.
Barb
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Okay, I'm feeling a bit worked up over this series, and it's only the second episode. What I'm seeing is an actor with A-List talent playing second banana to an interesting but becoming-annoying chatterbox on a C-List series.
Dan Lennox--handsome, charming, a delight to the eyes and ears. But CP is more than window dressing and he can charm and beguile in his sleep. I'm already missing the depth and edginess that an intense character, an in-depth character, can ignite in CP, and vice versa. He's a gifted emotional actor, he has the stuff of greatness in him. GIVE THIS MAN SOMETHING SHARP TO WORK WITH, AND HE'LL CARVE A MASTERPIECE OF CHARACTERIZATION.
Pardon me--I'm just feeling a familiar frustration with this film business. And I wouldn't be surprised if CP weren't already a bit frustrated himself. I know, I know, it's early days yet. Maybe I'm jumping the gun....but I'll bet this particular gun is a .22, not a .9mm.
Actually, I'm enjoying the the show, as light entertainment (not a bad thing). I just want even more for CP. More, and more substantial. He deserves it. And so do all his fans who have recognized what he has to offer for ten years now.
He's done Silk......a Tom* by any other name.....
Carol
*with all due respect to your fine taste, JG :-) Tom was a dish, but Peter....omigod, Peter was so wonderfully complex.
Dan Lennox--handsome, charming, a delight to the eyes and ears. But CP is more than window dressing and he can charm and beguile in his sleep. I'm already missing the depth and edginess that an intense character, an in-depth character, can ignite in CP, and vice versa. He's a gifted emotional actor, he has the stuff of greatness in him. GIVE THIS MAN SOMETHING SHARP TO WORK WITH, AND HE'LL CARVE A MASTERPIECE OF CHARACTERIZATION.
Pardon me--I'm just feeling a familiar frustration with this film business. And I wouldn't be surprised if CP weren't already a bit frustrated himself. I know, I know, it's early days yet. Maybe I'm jumping the gun....but I'll bet this particular gun is a .22, not a .9mm.
Actually, I'm enjoying the the show, as light entertainment (not a bad thing). I just want even more for CP. More, and more substantial. He deserves it. And so do all his fans who have recognized what he has to offer for ten years now.
He's done Silk......a Tom* by any other name.....
Carol
*with all due respect to your fine taste, JG :-) Tom was a dish, but Peter....omigod, Peter was so wonderfully complex.
I ageee with Carol about the A-list being second bananas, though my view stretches to Rae Dawn Chong as well. I really don't like her character. Sophia seems too naiive to be working at the level she is. Even the softer side of her doesn't work for me, and that includes the scene where she visits Zoe at home and gets advice on how not to plan her life.
In fact, even though Dan and Sophia are "by-the-book" I find them to be more green than Zoe. I realize that's the point, but having Zoe clean up their mistakes two episodes in a row is the beginning of a trend that can get tiresome after a while and can build a real lack of faith in them as credible investigators.
I really think this show has dumbed down both CP and RDC's characters just to make Zoe's streetwise knowledge work. I do think it has potential, but considering how much Dan and Sophia need to learn it's going to take a while for them to forge more of a team feel. And I just hope the ratings hold up long enough to see that happen.
Monica
In fact, even though Dan and Sophia are "by-the-book" I find them to be more green than Zoe. I realize that's the point, but having Zoe clean up their mistakes two episodes in a row is the beginning of a trend that can get tiresome after a while and can build a real lack of faith in them as credible investigators.
I really think this show has dumbed down both CP and RDC's characters just to make Zoe's streetwise knowledge work. I do think it has potential, but considering how much Dan and Sophia need to learn it's going to take a while for them to forge more of a team feel. And I just hope the ratings hold up long enough to see that happen.
Monica
This is Joely Fisher's show. It's a plot we've all seen before--engaging, naive, newcomer stumbles into job for which she has absolutely no qualifications and teaches the "pros" a trick or two.
It can work. It's worked successfully before.
I agree, so far we haven't seen CP do much in the way of stretching as an actor, but it's too early in the series. I think many of us were spoiled by KFTLC--it was the exception, not the norm.
The good thing about Wild Card is that he's the 2nd lead, and it's television exposure--something current to put on the resume. Meanwhile, it's a good place to be seen and Lifetime does seem to support it's series' actors by putting them in other roles. It's a chance to be seen by a new audience, too.
I'm liking Dan Lennox. Yes, he's a lot like Tom Ryan, but Zoe isn't the Cassy-type at all. And next week's episode may show us a little bit more about the man's backstory.
Jan
It can work. It's worked successfully before.
I agree, so far we haven't seen CP do much in the way of stretching as an actor, but it's too early in the series. I think many of us were spoiled by KFTLC--it was the exception, not the norm.
The good thing about Wild Card is that he's the 2nd lead, and it's television exposure--something current to put on the resume. Meanwhile, it's a good place to be seen and Lifetime does seem to support it's series' actors by putting them in other roles. It's a chance to be seen by a new audience, too.
I'm liking Dan Lennox. Yes, he's a lot like Tom Ryan, but Zoe isn't the Cassy-type at all. And next week's episode may show us a little bit more about the man's backstory.
Jan
Hmmm, I may have to give Wild Card a second chance. I really disliked the first episode and didn't bother to watch the second. (I have a toddler and infant and if it's not great tv, I just can't spend the time!) But it seems like some of you are seeing potential here. I'll tune in next week.
>Episode 2 was promising. Dan is developing a personality.
>He also smiles a lot and I like that.:7 The chemistry
>between Dan and Zoey is emerging. So much more genuine than
>Tom and whatshername.
I agree Barb, the chemistry between Dan and Zoe is starting to develop. I loved the playful scene at the carwash between the two at the end. Did you catch the look on Marcos face? We could see a love triangle after all. Dan does smile a lot, makes me want to smile too! Judging by the smiles, I think CP is having a good time filming this series. I hope so.
>
>I would be happier if they were equal partners in the
>series, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen when
>Joely Fisher presents the previews for HER new series.
You caught that too huh? Yes, it would be nice if they were equal partners, but CP is getting more screen tike that I ecpected. And while I agree with Monica and Jan that the characters of Dan and Sophia have been dumed down to showcase Zoe's street smarts, I don't think the laughs are at the expense of Dan like they were for Tom on SS. Curious to find out what Dan's big secret is!
I take it you were able to get this week's episode recorded ok?
Shannon
>He also smiles a lot and I like that.:7 The chemistry
>between Dan and Zoey is emerging. So much more genuine than
>Tom and whatshername.
I agree Barb, the chemistry between Dan and Zoe is starting to develop. I loved the playful scene at the carwash between the two at the end. Did you catch the look on Marcos face? We could see a love triangle after all. Dan does smile a lot, makes me want to smile too! Judging by the smiles, I think CP is having a good time filming this series. I hope so.
>
>I would be happier if they were equal partners in the
>series, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen when
>Joely Fisher presents the previews for HER new series.
You caught that too huh? Yes, it would be nice if they were equal partners, but CP is getting more screen tike that I ecpected. And while I agree with Monica and Jan that the characters of Dan and Sophia have been dumed down to showcase Zoe's street smarts, I don't think the laughs are at the expense of Dan like they were for Tom on SS. Curious to find out what Dan's big secret is!
I take it you were able to get this week's episode recorded ok?
Shannon
[updated:LAST EDITED ON Aug-11-03 AT 02:18 PM (GMT)]Episode 2 was promising. Dan is developing a personality. He also smiles a lot and I like that.:7 The chemistry between Dan and Zoey is emerging. So much more genuine than Tom and whatshername.
I would be happier if they were equal partners in the series, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen when Joely Fisher presents the previews for HER new series.
JF said in an interview that she was in every single scene. That's a lot of work (or time, anyway) so she probably gets very special treatment (and a really big trailer that she never gets to sit in). It's natural that TBTB and she would call it 'her' show. Not specially humble, but that's another issue.
The story was good, the wardrobe is awful.
I thought the premise was fine too - except aren't these guys the fraud squad? Didn't this incident start out as plain old arson? Wouldn't they have been called in later? Oh, and they didn't hit us very hard or often with the motive for the arson. Money, Dan said, about three-quarters of the way in, but why murder for it? What about a sisterly loan? What's the backstory there?
Am I expecting too much from the writers, do you think?
I can see this going back to the KFTLC days when we had weekly polls on the best and worst of Peter's outfits. But we've all matured since then and that would be shallow of us.}>
I think they dressed them realistically, but American audiences aren't used to that. Where are the Prada shoes and Armani suits that none of them could really afford? I kind of like that all of Zoe's shirts are pulling at the buttons and she couldn't possibly close any of her jackets. But why they put CP in salmon I'll never understand.
Pan
I would be happier if they were equal partners in the series, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen when Joely Fisher presents the previews for HER new series.
JF said in an interview that she was in every single scene. That's a lot of work (or time, anyway) so she probably gets very special treatment (and a really big trailer that she never gets to sit in). It's natural that TBTB and she would call it 'her' show. Not specially humble, but that's another issue.
The story was good, the wardrobe is awful.
I thought the premise was fine too - except aren't these guys the fraud squad? Didn't this incident start out as plain old arson? Wouldn't they have been called in later? Oh, and they didn't hit us very hard or often with the motive for the arson. Money, Dan said, about three-quarters of the way in, but why murder for it? What about a sisterly loan? What's the backstory there?
Am I expecting too much from the writers, do you think?
I can see this going back to the KFTLC days when we had weekly polls on the best and worst of Peter's outfits. But we've all matured since then and that would be shallow of us.}>
I think they dressed them realistically, but American audiences aren't used to that. Where are the Prada shoes and Armani suits that none of them could really afford? I kind of like that all of Zoe's shirts are pulling at the buttons and she couldn't possibly close any of her jackets. But why they put CP in salmon I'll never understand.
Pan
I really like Chris' haircut. It makes him look especially handsome. It reminds me of latter 5th and early 6th season of Silk Stalkings, which is my absolute favorite Potter look. And as far as the suit, at least they put him in a brighter colored shirt this EP, so he didn't look quite so much the funeral director.
This Dan guy reminds me of a much less wise-cracking, and somewhat more dour, Tom Ryan. Hopefully, he'll lighten up a bit as the series goes on, and show a bit more positive personality. Then, it could be almost like having Tom back. Yay!
Yes, this EP's story was a bit confusing and poorly wrapped up. I'm still kind of uncertain why the arson was committed. But it had a lot more CP, and Dan had moments of being much more personable, so it's going in the right direction.
The preview for next week looks promising, as the story appears to focus upon Dan, and CP was in every scene in the preview. I only hope that it's not going to be like "Rage". I want a happy, wise-cracking, playful Tom -- not the teary-eyed, upset, brooding Peter Caine sort.
This Dan guy reminds me of a much less wise-cracking, and somewhat more dour, Tom Ryan. Hopefully, he'll lighten up a bit as the series goes on, and show a bit more positive personality. Then, it could be almost like having Tom back. Yay!
Yes, this EP's story was a bit confusing and poorly wrapped up. I'm still kind of uncertain why the arson was committed. But it had a lot more CP, and Dan had moments of being much more personable, so it's going in the right direction.
The preview for next week looks promising, as the story appears to focus upon Dan, and CP was in every scene in the preview. I only hope that it's not going to be like "Rage". I want a happy, wise-cracking, playful Tom -- not the teary-eyed, upset, brooding Peter Caine sort.
If everyone doesn't already know, the second episode of Wild Card will be on again tonight @ 9pm on Lifetime.
JE,
Thanks, we've been out of town and I missed seeing the show last weekend. I'll try and catch it tonight since the thought of unpacking leaves me cold. But how large a pitcher of martinis should I make to watch this episode? From the comments above I'm not encouraged that much changed from that hideous first episode.
Laurence
Thanks, we've been out of town and I missed seeing the show last weekend. I'll try and catch it tonight since the thought of unpacking leaves me cold. But how large a pitcher of martinis should I make to watch this episode? From the comments above I'm not encouraged that much changed from that hideous first episode.
Laurence
Oh, my, what an improvement! Chris/Dan was even more of an bumbling, ignorant, ineffectual idiot than last week. How great to see him reduced to a character you can only view with contempt. Come on, people, I know this is a Lifetime producton and it is absolutely de rigueur that Zoe be this bright and shining superwoman, but please, this show flaunts all convention. You have this loud mouthed, obnoxious, rat-haired slattern who takes over the investigative unit of a major insurance company with absolutely no experience and we are expected to believe that intelligent, experienced, trained investigators would put up with this? And how did Dan even get the job as head investigator? Did he sleep with someone? It obviously wasn't based on talent or experience since he has done nothing but stumble along in Zoe's wake as she solves the mystery and he looks like a stupid jerk. I mean they would throw his ineffectual rear end out of that office in a heartbeat if he were to show that much incompetence. And if he actually is competent he wouldn't have allowed that woman to set foot in his office much less have offered her a job. Jeez, what a piece of crap. And to think I thought Arachnid was bad.
And could someone please tell me, was she wearing a dead Apaloosa or a dead Dalmaition as a skirt? I know she is not supposed to have a designer wardrobe but dead road kill as fashion is going a bit far.
My only hope for this show is that Dan will snap during one of Zoe's endless blathering speeches and hurl her head first out of one of the windows so she can plummet 48 floors to her just reward. Then the people in that office would actually have something to stand up and cheer about.
Laurence
BTW, I didn't really care for this episode.
And could someone please tell me, was she wearing a dead Apaloosa or a dead Dalmaition as a skirt? I know she is not supposed to have a designer wardrobe but dead road kill as fashion is going a bit far.
My only hope for this show is that Dan will snap during one of Zoe's endless blathering speeches and hurl her head first out of one of the windows so she can plummet 48 floors to her just reward. Then the people in that office would actually have something to stand up and cheer about.
Laurence
BTW, I didn't really care for this episode.
geez laurence:
why don't you tell us what you really feel?!?!
okay granted i'm not into joely fisher myself. i don't think i've ever seen one of her shows before so i ask myself how she can take us on a sneek peek of her new show.
whatever.
at least we get to see chris. and it may be that while we don't particularly care for dan--the character was written that way. and it may be that down the road tptb will see chris can bumble with the best of them. although personally i'd much rather see him doing something terrific like adrian or that peter caine fellow. even tom wasn't all bad--although i must confess that his partner was a pain in the hind end.
hopefully tonight's episode will be a LOT better.
margaret
why don't you tell us what you really feel?!?!
okay granted i'm not into joely fisher myself. i don't think i've ever seen one of her shows before so i ask myself how she can take us on a sneek peek of her new show.
whatever.
at least we get to see chris. and it may be that while we don't particularly care for dan--the character was written that way. and it may be that down the road tptb will see chris can bumble with the best of them. although personally i'd much rather see him doing something terrific like adrian or that peter caine fellow. even tom wasn't all bad--although i must confess that his partner was a pain in the hind end.
hopefully tonight's episode will be a LOT better.
margaret
Yes,this second parter did give us an insight on his character. They toned down the red in his hair, but the clothes do need a makeover. And what he drives. To me he always seemed a SUV type of guy. But thats only my thoughts. Was sad when he saw her kissing another guy. He may turn into a person who will go after her. We will see. Looks like the next show will not have him in as much. Hope this will not be a trend for the future.
Sharon
Sharon
I get the impression that Laurence doesn't like Chris playing a straight man. (And yeah, the guy is too pretty to be playing some average joey to a most unappealing zoey).
But geez, Laurence liked that Dave guy on QAF, and Dave was pretty much a mediocre, inexplicably pompous, clueless jerk. Dan is at least a less uptight, less egotistical guy, even if he isn't as talented and smart as Tom. I like Dan. I'd probably date him. I'd definitely pass on Dave.
Laurence, just pretend that Dan is gay. You'll like him. You can cover your eyes during the scene where he goes shopping for zoey's engagement ring at WallMart.
But geez, Laurence liked that Dave guy on QAF, and Dave was pretty much a mediocre, inexplicably pompous, clueless jerk. Dan is at least a less uptight, less egotistical guy, even if he isn't as talented and smart as Tom. I like Dan. I'd probably date him. I'd definitely pass on Dave.
Laurence, just pretend that Dan is gay. You'll like him. You can cover your eyes during the scene where he goes shopping for zoey's engagement ring at WallMart.
JG,
I don't have any problem with Chris playing (or being) a straight man. I've lusted after straight men just as much as gay men. Hell, a straight man ended up being my husband.
What I do have a problem with is how Dan is, IMO, constantly made to seem stupid and incompetent in his job while this hideous wretch who wandered in from the street (and should be kicked back there) is portrayed as the true brains of the outfit. I don't like seeing Chris playing a stupid man. Straight doesn't bother me, stupid does. But what it really comes down to is I loathe and despise the Zoe character. She is loud, obnoxious, irritating, vile, and repulsive. And those are her good qualities. A show featuring Chris and Rae Dawn Chong's character would have had possibilities. A show where Zoe is the main character is just nauseating to me. It seems most everyone here is able to overlook her many infuriating qualities and also don't seem to mind seeing Chris playing such a incompetent fool. I can't seem to make that leap. I tried muting the sound last night just to watch Chris and try to ignore Zoe, but that didn't help. I still had to look at her and her constantly opening and closing mouth. Arrgghhhhh!!! I don't know when I've ever seen such a truly despicable television character, and considering the state of most of the television I see that's saying a lot.
As for your sad, misguided comments (once again) about Dr. Dave, well, my friend, I can only shake my head and hope that one day you will see the light and come into the presence of the glory that is Dr. Dave. What is that old saying, something along the lines of "the blind who will not see"? I realize that you fell into the clutches of the TR cult years ago but I have hope that you will eventually join those of us in the true faith of Dr. Dave. I'm praying for you, buddy. If you'll excuse me I have to go speak in tongues for a bit.
Yours in Dr. Dave,
Laurence
I don't have any problem with Chris playing (or being) a straight man. I've lusted after straight men just as much as gay men. Hell, a straight man ended up being my husband.
What I do have a problem with is how Dan is, IMO, constantly made to seem stupid and incompetent in his job while this hideous wretch who wandered in from the street (and should be kicked back there) is portrayed as the true brains of the outfit. I don't like seeing Chris playing a stupid man. Straight doesn't bother me, stupid does. But what it really comes down to is I loathe and despise the Zoe character. She is loud, obnoxious, irritating, vile, and repulsive. And those are her good qualities. A show featuring Chris and Rae Dawn Chong's character would have had possibilities. A show where Zoe is the main character is just nauseating to me. It seems most everyone here is able to overlook her many infuriating qualities and also don't seem to mind seeing Chris playing such a incompetent fool. I can't seem to make that leap. I tried muting the sound last night just to watch Chris and try to ignore Zoe, but that didn't help. I still had to look at her and her constantly opening and closing mouth. Arrgghhhhh!!! I don't know when I've ever seen such a truly despicable television character, and considering the state of most of the television I see that's saying a lot.
As for your sad, misguided comments (once again) about Dr. Dave, well, my friend, I can only shake my head and hope that one day you will see the light and come into the presence of the glory that is Dr. Dave. What is that old saying, something along the lines of "the blind who will not see"? I realize that you fell into the clutches of the TR cult years ago but I have hope that you will eventually join those of us in the true faith of Dr. Dave. I'm praying for you, buddy. If you'll excuse me I have to go speak in tongues for a bit.
Yours in Dr. Dave,
Laurence
Laurence, having read your posts on Wild Card, I can only hope that the show continues to disappoint you. Should Dan develop a brain or Zoe find her hairbrush, invest in a new wardrobe, learn to keep her mouth closed or in any other way manage to reduce her irritation value, could you please ask yourself whether there are any other aspects of the show that annoy you.
Marion
Marion
Marion,
Fear not, my list of things that annoy me about WC isn't even close to being exhausted. :7 ;-) After the whole Chris/Dan as incompetent idiot issue is the fact that Rae Dawn Chong's character is also lumped into the utterly incompetent category as well. I think she has had 3 lines and the rest of the time must stand around with Chris with her mouth hanging open, a vacant look on her face, and a string of drool hanging from her lips while Zoe solves the case from a clue that one of her brainless nieces or nephews gave her and which would never have occured to seasoned, professional investigators. I think Ms. Chong is a fairly decent actress but I don't think we'll ever see that on this show. If the spotlight is not on Zoe then all the other characters are cast into utter darkness. And as for those hideous children, well, please, the less we see of them the better particularly the youngest child. I am convinced she is demon possessed. Really, have any of you looked at her eyes? There is a definite demonic glitter to them. (I know this because I have the same look. ) So, don't worry, Marion, I shall not rest until I've engineered the removal of Zoe and her evil brood from the story line and installed Chris and Rae Dawn as the lead characters. I'm thinking of making the whole Zoe thing a dream sequence (make that nightmare) much as Dallas did years ago. Chris/Dan will wake up, shake that beautiful head, and call Rae Dawn to tell her about this horrible dream he had. Speaking of his beautiful head, I will admit to liking the reddish tint to his hair, though I don't know why I like it. I've never had a thing for red-haired guys. Guess that shows I'm still open to new things, contrary to what some of you think. LOL }> x(
Laurence
Fear not, my list of things that annoy me about WC isn't even close to being exhausted. :7 ;-) After the whole Chris/Dan as incompetent idiot issue is the fact that Rae Dawn Chong's character is also lumped into the utterly incompetent category as well. I think she has had 3 lines and the rest of the time must stand around with Chris with her mouth hanging open, a vacant look on her face, and a string of drool hanging from her lips while Zoe solves the case from a clue that one of her brainless nieces or nephews gave her and which would never have occured to seasoned, professional investigators. I think Ms. Chong is a fairly decent actress but I don't think we'll ever see that on this show. If the spotlight is not on Zoe then all the other characters are cast into utter darkness. And as for those hideous children, well, please, the less we see of them the better particularly the youngest child. I am convinced she is demon possessed. Really, have any of you looked at her eyes? There is a definite demonic glitter to them. (I know this because I have the same look.
) So, don't worry, Marion, I shall not rest until I've engineered the removal of Zoe and her evil brood from the story line and installed Chris and Rae Dawn as the lead characters. I'm thinking of making the whole Zoe thing a dream sequence (make that nightmare) much as Dallas did years ago. Chris/Dan will wake up, shake that beautiful head, and call Rae Dawn to tell her about this horrible dream he had. Speaking of his beautiful head, I will admit to liking the reddish tint to his hair, though I don't know why I like it. I've never had a thing for red-haired guys. Guess that shows I'm still open to new things, contrary to what some of you think. LOL }> x(
Laurence
Aaah, Laurence, thank you so much for sharing! I'm going to have to have to swear off drinking coffee while reading your rants balanced commentaries, as I fear there could be catastrophic consequences if I get caught trying to swallow, inhale and suppress uncontrolled laughter at the time.
BTW, IMO (Goodness that?s 2 BBS abbreviations in a row. I hope they mean what I?m guessing they mean.) Lori is calling our David ?clueless? in her post below! Just who does she think she is! How can anyone who?s watched QAF have failed to grasp that Mikey was completely irresistible! After all, he was really ?cute?, utterly ?adorable?, very ?funny? and had that ?hot little bod?. (And how can anyone fail to be attracted to a ?perpetual boy? longing to be back in his old room with his comics!) And as if that wasn?t enough, anyone with the slightest sensitivity could only agree withthat escapee from Married With Children his mother that Mikey was a ?Picasso? with regards to ?taking care of people and knowing what they needed before they knew it themselves?. Now, while some may claim that this was never demonstrated with respect to our David, they should understand that these sorts of intimate relationship details are extremely private and best kept off the screen. And just consider how infatuated loyal he was with to Bryan, and his loyalty to Ted and Emmett as well. Many people entering a relationship make the mistake of putting their partner ahead of their friends. Not Mikey, he was way to caring for that. And considering the age difference, it was only natural that our David accept Mikey?s need to spend most of his time with ?the boys?. You know Laurence, if we don?t deal with this upstart Lori now, we?re likely to have people on this BBS thinking that we?re a pair of hopeless romantics!!!!
? In our defense, all I can say is that (thanks to those lazy and unimaginative CowLip guys) QAF settled for being a very, very sudsy SOAP, requiring that the brain be completely disengaged so that trivial details, such as the need for character continuity and credible story arcs, didn?t get in the way of your enjoyment of the ride the characters get taken on. In the case of Dr David (very largely thanks to CP?s subtle, layered, emotional performance) the ride was a very beautiful, romantic one.
Marion
BTW, IMO (Goodness that?s 2 BBS abbreviations in a row. I hope they mean what I?m guessing they mean.) Lori is calling our David ?clueless? in her post below! Just who does she think she is! How can anyone who?s watched QAF have failed to grasp that Mikey was completely irresistible! After all, he was really ?cute?, utterly ?adorable?, very ?funny? and had that ?hot little bod?. (And how can anyone fail to be attracted to a ?perpetual boy? longing to be back in his old room with his comics!) And as if that wasn?t enough, anyone with the slightest sensitivity could only agree with
? In our defense, all I can say is that (thanks to those lazy and unimaginative CowLip guys) QAF settled for being a very, very sudsy SOAP, requiring that the brain be completely disengaged so that trivial details, such as the need for character continuity and credible story arcs, didn?t get in the way of your enjoyment of the ride the characters get taken on. In the case of Dr David (very largely thanks to CP?s subtle, layered, emotional performance) the ride was a very beautiful, romantic one.
Marion
Marion wrote:
" I'm going to have...to swear off drinking coffee while reading your....balanced commentaries"
Coffee????? Coffee!?!?!?!? Marion, my good woman, did no one hand you the manual when you got here? The ONLY way to read my posts is with a martini in your hand and with at least 2 or 3 already inside you. Certainly that's how I write them and it's the only way that my deep thoughts, impressive subtleties, and magnificent imagery can be understood and appreciated. Just look at those people who don't get my poing or dare to disagree with me! Obviously a martini-deprived bunch. }>
As for QAF being a "...very, very sudsy SOAP," I agree. My mind hearkens back to that wonderful scene in Babylon when Michael and David were in the country and the bar was awash in soap suds for Studs and Suds Night, Emmett was playing with his rubber ducky, and Ted and Bryan were verbally slashing each other in their own sweet way. Ahhh, good times, good times.
Now quick, run and make yourself a pitcher of martinis then re-read this and marvel at my magnificence. }> :+ BTW, I'm liberal, so feel free to use either vodka or gin. I do side with the religious fundamentalist however in proclaiming that some things are a sin. The use of flavored vodka in a martini is an abomination. Anyone who does so shall be cast out into utter darkness. Here endeth the lesson.
Laurence
" I'm going to have...to swear off drinking coffee while reading your....balanced commentaries"
Coffee????? Coffee!?!?!?!? Marion, my good woman, did no one hand you the manual when you got here? The ONLY way to read my posts is with a martini in your hand and with at least 2 or 3 already inside you. Certainly that's how I write them and it's the only way that my deep thoughts, impressive subtleties, and magnificent imagery can be understood and appreciated. Just look at those people who don't get my poing or dare to disagree with me! Obviously a martini-deprived bunch. }>
As for QAF being a "...very, very sudsy SOAP," I agree. My mind hearkens back to that wonderful scene in Babylon when Michael and David were in the country and the bar was awash in soap suds for Studs and Suds Night, Emmett was playing with his rubber ducky, and Ted and Bryan were verbally slashing each other in their own sweet way. Ahhh, good times, good times.
Now quick, run and make yourself a pitcher of martinis then re-read this and marvel at my magnificence.
}> :+ BTW, I'm liberal, so feel free to use either vodka or gin. I do side with the religious fundamentalist however in proclaiming that some things are a sin. The use of flavored vodka in a martini is an abomination. Anyone who does so shall be cast out into utter darkness. Here endeth the lesson.
Laurence
laurence:
you forget some of us shouldn't drink because of diabetes or whatnot. i personally love reading your posts cause i find them light and entertaining. Sometimes their lessons to be learned, and thoughts passed on.
so later today when i have another glass of soda--i'll drink a toast to my friend that i think is so funny, warm and charming.
here's looking at you!
margaret
>Marion wrote:
>
>" I'm going to have...to swear off drinking coffee while
>reading your....balanced commentaries"
>
>Coffee????? Coffee!?!?!?!? Marion, my good woman, did no one
>hand you the manual when you got here? The ONLY
>way to read my posts is with a martini in your hand and with
>at least 2 or 3 already inside you. Certainly that's how I
>write them and it's the only way that my deep thoughts,
>impressive subtleties, and magnificent imagery can be
>understood and appreciated. Just look at those people who
>don't get my poing or dare to disagree with me! Obviously a
>martini-deprived bunch. }>
>
>As for QAF being a "...very, very sudsy SOAP," I agree. My
>mind hearkens back to that wonderful scene in Babylon when
>Michael and David were in the country and the bar was awash
>in soap suds for Studs and Suds Night, Emmett was playing
>with his rubber ducky, and Ted and Bryan were verbally
>slashing each other in their own sweet way. Ahhh, good
>times, good times.
>
>Now quick, run and make yourself a pitcher of martinis then
>re-read this and marvel at my magnificence. }> :+ BTW,
>I'm liberal, so feel free to use either vodka or gin. I do
>side with the religious fundamentalist however in
>proclaiming that some things are a sin. The use of flavored
>vodka in a martini is an abomination. Anyone who does so
>shall be cast out into utter darkness. Here endeth the
>lesson.
>
>Laurence
you forget some of us shouldn't drink because of diabetes or whatnot. i personally love reading your posts cause i find them light and entertaining. Sometimes their lessons to be learned, and thoughts passed on.
so later today when i have another glass of soda--i'll drink a toast to my friend that i think is so funny, warm and charming.
here's looking at you!
margaret
>Marion wrote:
>
>" I'm going to have...to swear off drinking coffee while
>reading your....balanced commentaries"
>
>Coffee????? Coffee!?!?!?!? Marion, my good woman, did no one
>hand you the manual when you got here? The ONLY
>way to read my posts is with a martini in your hand and with
>at least 2 or 3 already inside you. Certainly that's how I
>write them and it's the only way that my deep thoughts,
>impressive subtleties, and magnificent imagery can be
>understood and appreciated. Just look at those people who
>don't get my poing or dare to disagree with me! Obviously a
>martini-deprived bunch. }>
>
>As for QAF being a "...very, very sudsy SOAP," I agree. My
>mind hearkens back to that wonderful scene in Babylon when
>Michael and David were in the country and the bar was awash
>in soap suds for Studs and Suds Night, Emmett was playing
>with his rubber ducky, and Ted and Bryan were verbally
>slashing each other in their own sweet way. Ahhh, good
>times, good times.
>
>Now quick, run and make yourself a pitcher of martinis then
>re-read this and marvel at my magnificence.
}> :+ BTW,
>I'm liberal, so feel free to use either vodka or gin. I do
>side with the religious fundamentalist however in
>proclaiming that some things are a sin. The use of flavored
>vodka in a martini is an abomination. Anyone who does so
>shall be cast out into utter darkness. Here endeth the
>lesson.
>
>Laurence
Laurence wrote:
"... The ONLY way to read my posts is with a martini in your hand and with at least 2 or 3 already inside you"
Laurence, I?m now stocked up and ready to assemble my first martini. The pitcher is full*, I?ve got a glass on hand and I now need your advice with regards to the 'embellishments' required to manufacture the perfect cocktail. (Web cam pans across Marion?s desk revealing the pitcher, a large wine glass, a bent black straw, and a large assortment of sliced fruits, swizzle sticks, cute little paper umbrellas, little paper flags, etc, etc.)
* BTW as I?m not much of a spirits drinker, I took the advice of the young man behind the counter at the local Liquorland and bought an African 'banana gin' imitation of a London Dry gin.
"... my deep thoughts, impressive subtleties, and magnificent imagery"
Well, I guess that?s one way of describing your posts. An Aussie faced with the task of characterising their content might be tempted to investigate the possibilities afforded by holding down the shift key and accessing those funny characters on the top row of the keyboard. ... Of course, an Aussie reading your posts is likely to find them very amusing and want you to keep posting. ... And, if pushed, an Aussie might also concede that her own posts deserved to be described using the same technique.
"... people who don't get my poing"
Can I check the spelling of that last word? ? p .... o .... n .... g
"... or dare to disagree with me"
Let me hasten to assure you that I completely agree with everything you say. And let me also assure you that, if necessary, I am prepared to change my opinion on any subject rather than risk your wrath. (Web cam pans back to reveal Marion cowering at her keyboard.)
"My mind hearkens back to that wonderful scene in Babylon when Michael and David were in the country and the bar was awash in soap suds for Studs and Suds Night, Emmett was playing with his rubber ducky, and Ted and Bryan were verbally slashing each other in their own sweet way. Ahhh, good times, good times."
Good times indeed. QAF had many wonderful scenes, some great story lines and also some brilliant acting - Peter Paige?s sublime performance during Emmett?s journey into fear over his AIDS test result is an example that immediately springs to mind.
"? re-read this and marvel at my magnificence"
Laurence, if I could manage to drag my eyes away from the magical melding of metaphysical metaphors in my own posts, I?d be happy to cast my eyes over your patchy prose once again. (Web cam pans back to reveal Marion?s chin, pans up to reveal the rather unpleasant sight of the insides of her nostrils, keeps panning back, slowly revealing a very swollen head and just a hint of a very, very large ego.)
BTW, I?m going to have to, have to, have to, learn to engage my brain while proof reading my posts. Sorry about the bad punctuation, missing/extra words and misspellings.
Marion
"Doubt: The only human activity capable of controlling the use of power in a positive way. Doubt is central to understanding."
"Freedom of speech ... involves a willingness to listen combined with a desire to be heard. Listening means taking into account, not simply hearing what people say. And being heard means being exposed to criticism ..."
John Ralston Saul ? (my favourite Canadian)
I've posted the above because I have no idea how my posts are being received by anyone other than Laurence.
"... The ONLY way to read my posts is with a martini in your hand and with at least 2 or 3 already inside you"
Laurence, I?m now stocked up and ready to assemble my first martini. The pitcher is full*, I?ve got a glass on hand and I now need your advice with regards to the 'embellishments' required to manufacture the perfect cocktail. (Web cam pans across Marion?s desk revealing the pitcher, a large wine glass, a bent black straw, and a large assortment of sliced fruits, swizzle sticks, cute little paper umbrellas, little paper flags, etc, etc.)
* BTW as I?m not much of a spirits drinker, I took the advice of the young man behind the counter at the local Liquorland and bought an African 'banana gin' imitation of a London Dry gin.
"... my deep thoughts, impressive subtleties, and magnificent imagery"
Well, I guess that?s one way of describing your posts. An Aussie faced with the task of characterising their content might be tempted to investigate the possibilities afforded by holding down the shift key and accessing those funny characters on the top row of the keyboard.
"... people who don't get my poing"
Can I check the spelling of that last word? ? p .... o .... n .... g
"... or dare to disagree with me"
Let me hasten to assure you that I completely agree with everything you say. And let me also assure you that, if necessary, I am prepared to change my opinion on any subject rather than risk your wrath. (Web cam pans back to reveal Marion cowering at her keyboard.)
"My mind hearkens back to that wonderful scene in Babylon when Michael and David were in the country and the bar was awash in soap suds for Studs and Suds Night, Emmett was playing with his rubber ducky, and Ted and Bryan were verbally slashing each other in their own sweet way. Ahhh, good times, good times."
Good times indeed. QAF had many wonderful scenes, some great story lines and also some brilliant acting - Peter Paige?s sublime performance during Emmett?s journey into fear over his AIDS test result is an example that immediately springs to mind.
"? re-read this and marvel at my magnificence"
Laurence, if I could manage to drag my eyes away from the magical melding of metaphysical metaphors in my own posts, I?d be happy to cast my eyes over your patchy prose once again. (Web cam pans back to reveal Marion?s chin, pans up to reveal the rather unpleasant sight of the insides of her nostrils, keeps panning back, slowly revealing a very swollen head and just a hint of a very, very large ego.)
BTW, I?m going to have to, have to, have to, learn to engage my brain while proof reading my posts. Sorry about the bad punctuation, missing/extra words and misspellings.
Marion
"Doubt: The only human activity capable of controlling the use of power in a positive way. Doubt is central to understanding."
"Freedom of speech ... involves a willingness to listen combined with a desire to be heard. Listening means taking into account, not simply hearing what people say. And being heard means being exposed to criticism ..."
John Ralston Saul ? (my favourite Canadian)
I've posted the above because I have no idea how my posts are being received by anyone other than Laurence.
I've posted the above because I have no idea how my posts are being received by anyone other than Laurence.
I'm certainly enjoying both yours and Laurence's posts. After all, how could anyone not enjoy such a superlative and simply sublime bit of alliteration as shown by your "magical melding of metaphysical metaphors"? Although it was brought down a bit by the "patchy prose" effort.
Mary
I'm certainly enjoying both yours and Laurence's posts. After all, how could anyone not enjoy such a superlative and simply sublime bit of alliteration as shown by your "magical melding of metaphysical metaphors"? Although it was brought down a bit by the "patchy prose" effort.
Mary
My goodness, a master of alliteration, a connoisseur of the sweet sounds of strings of silibant syllables, and a critic to boot!
Mary, I can only agree with you that 'patchy prose' was a bit pathetic. I was trying to find a way of expressing disdain rather than contempt and, having scanned through the 'me...' section of a concise dictionary to tighten up my attempt at the first half of the sentence, I was too lazy to go back to there when I couldn?t come up with a better word to couple with 'prose' off the top of my head. I admit that although, IMO, 'patchy prose' kind of sounds OK, it actually doesn?t mean too much. (But then again, I also have a few doubts about the alliteration in the first part of the sentence!)
BTW, thank you very much for the feedback. I?m finding this BBS posting business to be interesting, but rather weird. I find it very hard to judge some of the responses to my posts because I have no context in which to view them. As a result I suspect that some of what I post may also be hard to interpret.
Marion
Mary, I can only agree with you that 'patchy prose' was a bit pathetic. I was trying to find a way of expressing disdain rather than contempt and, having scanned through the 'me...' section of a concise dictionary to tighten up my attempt at the first half of the sentence, I was too lazy to go back to there when I couldn?t come up with a better word to couple with 'prose' off the top of my head. I admit that although, IMO, 'patchy prose' kind of sounds OK, it actually doesn?t mean too much. (But then again, I also have a few doubts about the alliteration in the first part of the sentence!)
BTW, thank you very much for the feedback. I?m finding this BBS posting business to be interesting, but rather weird. I find it very hard to judge some of the responses to my posts because I have no context in which to view them. As a result I suspect that some of what I post may also be hard to interpret.
Marion
I have no idea how my posts are being received by anyone other than Laurence.
I don't know about Laurence, but I receive your posts with my browser.
I don't know about Laurence, but I receive your posts with my browser.
Can we use browsers to receive these messages? Wow, what a relief. My tinfoil hat and rabbit ears were beginning to get a bit tiresome to wear.
Laurence
Laurence
But darling Lar, you wear them with such aplomb, such penache...
Reading your posts, I think of Noel Coward. Somebody definitely "raised you right."
(BTW and completely OT -- has anyone seen Star, that Julie Andrews' movie where she played Gertrude Lawrence and David Massey played Noel Coward? How close a portrayal of NC do you think that was? And did you see that gawdawful Harlequin movie he did w/ Marilu Henner 10-15 years ago? It took me forever to realize that was the same actor. I still haven't decided if that means he's a good character actor or just that he'd aged very poorly. Of course the late-80s hair didn't help, I'm sure...)
Marion, yours are exactly the sort of posts that keep me reading this board. Occasionally when things get too quiet / dull / inappropriate (e.g. our recent text messaging grrl), I take a written poke at JG to get us back on track. He's fully aware of what I'm doing, and usually ignores me, alas. I have learned to live with the pain and I just keep doing it, which probably contains clues to my personality.
And my dears, Dr. Dave was definitely looking for love in all the wrong places. If you could call what he found "love".
TTFN,
Alliterative Lori
Reading your posts, I think of Noel Coward. Somebody definitely "raised you right."
(BTW and completely OT -- has anyone seen Star, that Julie Andrews' movie where she played Gertrude Lawrence and David Massey played Noel Coward? How close a portrayal of NC do you think that was? And did you see that gawdawful Harlequin movie he did w/ Marilu Henner
Marion, yours are exactly the sort of posts that keep me reading this board. Occasionally when things get too quiet / dull / inappropriate (e.g. our recent text messaging grrl), I take a written poke at JG to get us back on track. He's fully aware of what I'm doing, and usually ignores me, alas. I have learned to live with the pain and I just keep doing it, which probably contains clues to my personality.
And my dears, Dr. Dave was definitely looking for love in all the wrong places. If you could call what he found "love".
TTFN,
Alliterative Lori
My bad -- it's Daniel Massey, not David, that played Noel Coward in Star! Either way, my comment stands.
TTFN,
Alliterative Lori
TTFN,
Alliterative Lori
JG usually ignores me
That's because I don't see your posts. I have my browser filter set to the following keywords:
Peter
Caine
Macintosh
That's because I don't see your posts. I have my browser filter set to the following keywords:
Peter
Caine
Macintosh
Lori wrote:
And my dears, Dr. Dave was definitely looking for love in all the wrong places. If you could call what he found "love".
Lori, I?m beginning to sense that JG isn?t the only one you like to stir. In response all I can say is that if you?re haven?t 'seen the light' after my compelling analysis of the reasons why Dr David found Mikey soirritable irresistible, there?s little point in further discussing this matter. The next thing you?ll be telling me is that 'seeing something you like and going after it', knowing that at the time you?re a 'consolation prize' at best, is not only a poor basis on which to build a relationship, but also a very egotistical one. And I guess you?ll follow that up by saying that the type of guy who?d try to carve out a relationship where many would say none should exist is someone you wouldn?t want to date!
All joking aside, while I can see a whole lot of reasons why I would not knowingly choose a person as insecure as Michael as a partner, (or such an alpha male as David for that matter), I totally identify with the journey they were on. From my perspective, (once I?d blocked out my irritation at CowLip?s careless writing and their crass need for QAF to focus on 'shocking' and 'thrilling' the viewer), the David/Michael story was a wonderfully drawn picture of two people needing to love and be loved going about building a relationship based on partnership and 'loving someone real'. I, for one, am not to sure how to define 'love' except in terms of the combinations of unselfish, risky, joyous, passionate behaviours that love makes possible ? being able to put someone else?s needs ahead of your own, to delight in making someone else happy and take delight in their desire to make you happy, to want to give and accept support, to share the rush of mutual passion and the warmth of shared emotions and experiences, accepting someone for the person they are and being accepted for the person you are, being able to share feelings and points of view honestly, accepting and celebrating differences, and, most importantly, working out how to accommodate them, being able to admit your insecurities and flaws and accept your partner?s insecurities and flaws, being willing to risk being hurt, admit error, modify your behaviour, grow together, etc, etc. IMO, both David and Michael were behaving in many of these kinds of ways and hence were finding 'love' and, in my view, a partnership based on honesty, acceptance and 'loving someone real' is a very beautiful one.
BTW, I don?t know whether any of you are interested in QAF-related trivia, but just in case you are, and assuming that this hasn?t already come up, can I ask you the following:
In what scene was Dr David wearing a wedding ring?
Clue No 1: David was wearing clothes at the time.
Clue No 2: If wearing the ring was an intentional decision by CP rather than simply an accident, it was a very interesting thing to have chosen to do at that particular point in Dr David?s story arc.
Clue No 3: The ring gleamed as it reflected firelight.
Marion
And my dears, Dr. Dave was definitely looking for love in all the wrong places. If you could call what he found "love".
Lori, I?m beginning to sense that JG isn?t the only one you like to stir. In response all I can say is that if you?re haven?t 'seen the light' after my compelling analysis of the reasons why Dr David found Mikey so
All joking aside, while I can see a whole lot of reasons why I would not knowingly choose a person as insecure as Michael as a partner, (or such an alpha male as David for that matter), I totally identify with the journey they were on. From my perspective, (once I?d blocked out my irritation at CowLip?s careless writing and their crass need for QAF to focus on 'shocking' and 'thrilling' the viewer), the David/Michael story was a wonderfully drawn picture of two people needing to love and be loved going about building a relationship based on partnership and 'loving someone real'. I, for one, am not to sure how to define 'love' except in terms of the combinations of unselfish, risky, joyous, passionate behaviours that love makes possible ? being able to put someone else?s needs ahead of your own, to delight in making someone else happy and take delight in their desire to make you happy, to want to give and accept support, to share the rush of mutual passion and the warmth of shared emotions and experiences, accepting someone for the person they are and being accepted for the person you are, being able to share feelings and points of view honestly, accepting and celebrating differences, and, most importantly, working out how to accommodate them, being able to admit your insecurities and flaws and accept your partner?s insecurities and flaws, being willing to risk being hurt, admit error, modify your behaviour, grow together, etc, etc. IMO, both David and Michael were behaving in many of these kinds of ways and hence were finding 'love' and, in my view, a partnership based on honesty, acceptance and 'loving someone real' is a very beautiful one.
BTW, I don?t know whether any of you are interested in QAF-related trivia, but just in case you are, and assuming that this hasn?t already come up, can I ask you the following:
In what scene was Dr David wearing a wedding ring?
Clue No 1: David was wearing clothes at the time.
Clue No 2: If wearing the ring was an intentional decision by CP rather than simply an accident, it was a very interesting thing to have chosen to do at that particular point in Dr David?s story arc.
Clue No 3: The ring gleamed as it reflected firelight.
Marion
Marion, it was the scene where he tells Michael he went to the baths. I don't think it was intentional. When he realized it was on he put his hand over it then put his hands in his pocket. How's that?
Well spotted JEinPA. While I agree that wearing ring was probably accidental, the rationale I?ve heard for it being deliberate is that the bit where Michael sat down with his leg over David?s knee could have been carefully set up so that CP?s hand was positioned so that there would be a brief flash of the ring reflecting the firelight as Michael stood up again. Although CP?s movements show that once he was standing he was very conscious of the ring and wanted to keep it out of sight, this is interpreted as being driven by a desire to make sure that the ring was only very briefly on view.
I have to confess that I?d like the wearing of the ring to have been deliberate and for it to have been a subtle protest over the storyline. I don?t know what you all thought of David?s trip to the baths and the way the issue of monogamy in relationships was handled by CowLip, but, IMO, the whole thing stank. To me there was zero motivation for David to have cheated on Michael at that particular point in their relationship. Worse still, David?s reasons for his night of adventure were totally out of character ? everything we?d learned about David up to this point indicated that he was very aware of his attractiveness to both men and women, was comfortable about his age and who he was, had a decided preference for relationships over casual sex, desperately wanted the relationship with Michael and that, by then, the relationship was going really well. I also thought that the resolution of the episode was extraordinarily trite ? monogamous gay relationships are not possible because 'guys slip up'. As far as I?m aware given sufficient temptation everyone, gay or straight, man or woman, is capable of slipping up. In relationships where monogamy is important, the decision not to cheat is made because the partners cherish their commitment to each other and are aware that the deceit will damage the trust and honesty upon which successful relationships are built.
(On the other hand, I also have to confess that, providing my brain stays disengaged, I enjoy this story arc, largely because of the layers to the interaction between Bryan and David and the complex range of emotions CP has David displaying.)
Marion
I have to confess that I?d like the wearing of the ring to have been deliberate and for it to have been a subtle protest over the storyline. I don?t know what you all thought of David?s trip to the baths and the way the issue of monogamy in relationships was handled by CowLip, but, IMO, the whole thing stank. To me there was zero motivation for David to have cheated on Michael at that particular point in their relationship. Worse still, David?s reasons for his night of adventure were totally out of character ? everything we?d learned about David up to this point indicated that he was very aware of his attractiveness to both men and women, was comfortable about his age and who he was, had a decided preference for relationships over casual sex, desperately wanted the relationship with Michael and that, by then, the relationship was going really well. I also thought that the resolution of the episode was extraordinarily trite ? monogamous gay relationships are not possible because 'guys slip up'. As far as I?m aware given sufficient temptation everyone, gay or straight, man or woman, is capable of slipping up. In relationships where monogamy is important, the decision not to cheat is made because the partners cherish their commitment to each other and are aware that the deceit will damage the trust and honesty upon which successful relationships are built.
(On the other hand, I also have to confess that, providing my brain stays disengaged, I enjoy this story arc, largely because of the layers to the interaction between Bryan and David and the complex range of emotions CP has David displaying.)
Marion
I don't know about Laurence, but I receive your posts with my browser.
JG, you did it again. I laughed out loud when I read this comment. I don't normally get that vocal, just chuckle or smile, but your comments tend to make me actually laugh. Wonder if it could be because your sense of humor is similar to mine or the fact that you are just generally wacky.
M
JG, you did it again. I laughed out loud when I read this comment. I don't normally get that vocal, just chuckle or smile, but your comments tend to make me actually laugh. Wonder if it could be because your sense of humor is similar to mine or the fact that you are just generally wacky.
M
your comments tend to make me actually laugh. Wonder if it could be because...
Margaret, without a full medical and psychological examination, I can't be sure as to the reason. But if you laugh at the stuff I write, then I strongly recommend you seek such an examination, and soon too.
Margaret, without a full medical and psychological examination, I can't be sure as to the reason. But if you laugh at the stuff I write, then I strongly recommend you seek such an examination, and soon too.
Oops. Make that "Mary", not "Margaret". On second thought, Margaret thinks that Laurence is funny, so she should get a checkup too.
P.S. Here's one tip for those seeking psychiatric treatment: In order to reduce costs, if you're suffering from schizophrenia, ask your psychiatrist if he offers group rates. I do (and I even made my other personality pay the bill, so it actually costs me nothing).
P.S. Here's one tip for those seeking psychiatric treatment: In order to reduce costs, if you're suffering from schizophrenia, ask your psychiatrist if he offers group rates. I do (and I even made my other personality pay the bill, so it actually costs me nothing).
Seems to me (the Queen of the Obvious) that if CP can create a character that ticks off JG and a totally different one that ticks off Lar, that CP must just be a versatile actor.
After all, who would want to be handed a character and told, "This guy's clueless"? A mediocre actor would pbly want to slip in something that would make it look like the guy really isn't clueless underneath. Not only does CP handle it, but the different characters are different kinds of "clueless".
TTFN,
Alliterative Lori
After all, who would want to be handed a character and told, "This guy's clueless"? A mediocre actor would pbly want to slip in something that would make it look like the guy really isn't clueless underneath. Not only does CP handle it, but the different characters are different kinds of "clueless".
TTFN,
Alliterative Lori
What is very unrealistic about this show is that in real life, Dan and Sofia would feel their jobs threatened by "perky" little Zoe. Instead, they have taken her in and they are grateful when she doesn't rat to the Terminator about their incompetence. Wonder who was covering their #$%s before Zoe.
Let's face it. If this show was about a guy named Dan, who's sister was killed and Dan was raising his sisters kids and went to work with Zoe and Sofia, and showed them up with his brillant deductive work each week, we'd be cheering him on. We're Potter fans. It's what we do.
I am not so secretly hoping that he took this role on the promise of better roles to come in MOWs or miniseries, or maybe his own series. For now, this is new CPTV, I'm grateful. I like the character, I like that Dan smiles a lot. It's entertaining.
We all have choices. To watch or not to watch. Laurence, I obviously agree with some of your comments on WC, but you aren't the in the target audience for Lifetime. (I probably am, but they'll only get me if they keep CP) }>
Barb
Let's face it. If this show was about a guy named Dan, who's sister was killed and Dan was raising his sisters kids and went to work with Zoe and Sofia, and showed them up with his brillant deductive work each week, we'd be cheering him on. We're Potter fans. It's what we do.
I am not so secretly hoping that he took this role on the promise of better roles to come in MOWs or miniseries, or maybe his own series. For now, this is new CPTV, I'm grateful. I like the character, I like that Dan smiles a lot. It's entertaining.
We all have choices. To watch or not to watch. Laurence, I obviously agree with some of your comments on WC, but you aren't the in the target audience for Lifetime. (I probably am, but they'll only get me if they keep CP) }>
Barb
>Let's face it. If this show was about a guy named
>Dan, who's sister was killed and Dan was raising his
>sisters kids and went to work with Zoe and Sofia, and showed
>them up with his brillant deductive work each week,
>we'd be cheering him on.
In my case I'm not so sure. As much as I'd prefer to see CP in the lead role, I'd still have a problem with what appears to be a lack of competance by the more experienced members of the team.
Monica
>Dan, who's sister was killed and Dan was raising his
>sisters kids and went to work with Zoe and Sofia, and showed
>them up with his brillant deductive work each week,
>we'd be cheering him on.
In my case I'm not so sure. As much as I'd prefer to see CP in the lead role, I'd still have a problem with what appears to be a lack of competance by the more experienced members of the team.
Monica
I'd still have a problem with what appears
>to be a lack of competance by the more experienced members
>of the team.
>
>Monica
No argument there. Every so often, Dan and Sofia are allowed to teach Zoe something, but they are mostly there to make Zoe look good - metaphorically speaking, of course. }>
Character-wise, Sofia's got the catch - Dr. Peter - whoa! (No disloyalty to CP intended or implied. : )
Barb
>to be a lack of competance by the more experienced members
>of the team.
>
>Monica
No argument there. Every so often, Dan and Sofia are allowed to teach Zoe something, but they are mostly there to make Zoe look good - metaphorically speaking, of course. }>
Character-wise, Sofia's got the catch - Dr. Peter - whoa! (No disloyalty to CP intended or implied. : )
Barb
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